INTERVIEW: Jess PG (Reformed, 3FU) & Donald Veitch (WCF-BCP-TFU)

AN REC/RES/SHREVEPORT STORY ON "SHIFTINGS" FROM THE THEOLOGICAL FORENSIC UNIT. Rev. Mark Winder (OPC Pastor) discusses numerous things. His entrance to the REC/RES via Emmanuel REC, Pipersville, his exposure to the Rev. Dr. Dale Krauthamel, Dr. Peter Toon, Mr. Ray Sutton and Mark’s entire time in Philadelphia. He then relocated to Shreveport, LA, for the new RES school called “Cranmer House.” Misnamed because the school was un-Cranmerian but, then again, what is some identity theft? Misrepresentations of fact were used to sell the school. Mark sold his home, gave up his business job (good wages) and move with wife and three children to Shreveport. Mr. Sutton was also telling prospective students that the Cranmer House was "accredited" when it was not. Also, this potent library was not what Pastor Winder had been sold (by Mr. Sutton). The students worked weekends at janitorial and lawn services atop—in addition to--working at the on-site pharmaceutical company during weekdays. Pastor Winder tells of Mr. Sutton’s views and teachings on baptismal regeneration (head-for-head regeneration and most definitely in defiance of and against the old REC’s “Declaration of Principles”), baptismal justification, the merit of using rosary beads, the bone-muncher-cruncher views of Jesus in the elements—same body as Jesus of Nazareth--, prayers to saints, invoking the saints, and the reservation of the elements from Holy Communion. The body and blood is over there in the box--Jesus in jail. Can we have a little window in the box so we can see Jesus? That's the logic, so, if that's the view, be brave and own. We'd say the same to all TEC, ACNA and REC Bishops. At least the Continuing Anglicans are brave and "own it." As for the term “bone-muncher-cruncher,” we refer to Dr. Cranmer’s comments to Bishop Bonner in 1549: “Do you eat the ears, nose and eyes of Jesus…” Well, by resistless logic (someone was a “logic and philosophy major), if you eat the ears, eyes, and the nose of Jesus, why not the legs, femur bones, toe nails and all? If one holds that view, accept the logic, be brave and own it. The phrase is justified and follows Dr. Cranmer who was battling the ever-hostile Bonner later known as Bloody Bonner for his murderousness in the Marian genocide of 1553-1558. Back on topic. Mr. Sutton was also “selling” the theme that Reformed Episcopalians were not “Reformed” in theology, but that the word meant “Reforming” or “Reorganizing Episcopalians.” On our end, we have argued both and that the documentary record supports our view—arguing otherwise, contra: our thesis, is to drive suicidally into a brick of brute facts. For more on the Reformed Theology of the old Reformed Episcopal Seminary, see here: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZd-hxcZCcA...](https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DRZd-hxcZCcA%26list%3DPLUDbB9El9rkqPUAm_gdYHgn2vRKChuONm%26fbclid%3DIwAR1QtyAICi2XrzvcHc34Masuu_CA-3LmxDWbNrnhZFMpK8L4BILZ-cECQ28&h=AT1xTXWs7LaPnefVEzdmylxFMXfCqccdD1YdkCOgCl6wW_wPBmvJH7sjyHbjV4NPD5BdT-6AKFmS1GVi7sUJ57ELkUQ5B92ooT2mvx-XQKpA692m0zszMoRld3ZCwvgfmcZuOImtUgmkF-WuXA&__tn__=-UK-R&c[0]=AT1v996wReJrM8xyNnbSxCVDj5q_Lld-QYq423A0ulIev-pXChnJvfIv17OO5bCk5stXRq7x3fjc3I-bpWALXvi1d2m1paxsoVtMkrQm6SvqngV3Zf_coHL87FHWjX_ZfvzW9fs8aszBHw_Mzs8yggtdRmqa5TvdxfX_Ze3Mp58KdYQhlusITOcwi90eIoVcUOrAvSB_KGv4RDdJSgQL0xus6JE) . The timeframe on this video is roughly 1999-2001ish when he left the Shreveport school, but the school folded. “Obey the Bishop” was thematic (expected from a Monarchialist Imperator like Mr. Sutton.) Pastor Winder retails one chilling and imperialist threat made to him by Mr. Sutton. God willing, we plan to explore more of the “theology” of the REC drifting into APA-waters with shifty-shifting theology. One account at the end is vintage for Mr. Sutton. This is the Theological Forensic Unit—these are their stories.